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fiscal cliff. >> you gotta nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top comiftds -- economists came to capitol hill thursday to talk about the impact of tax increases ask government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars means a couple months rent for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear, the country could go or the cliff -- over the cliff, if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily, because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money but insist that bush-era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt concerns ryan shenecki. so much so that he's the guy in the can suit, dancing gangnam style with the cochair of the deficit commission, former senator allen simpson
though if the market saw there was at least a down payment on the fiscal cliff, something agreed to be picked up after the first of the year, i think equity prices would be eleased. if we see more polarization leading into the end of the year without any sign of anything getting done, i think that would weigh on equity prices. tracy: talk about what we should be doing because i think we're all kind of the notion this will not happen until december 31st, what could we do before that? should i move maybe my dividend paying stocks into my retirement account? >> you can do that under subject of limitations how much you can put into a retirement account in any given year and predicated whether you work for employer or are self-employed. that is one avenue, if you will of sheltering those growth stocks from taxation at some later point. it isn't going to do much to help you this year, in order to do that you would have to sell them and move the cash into the tax sheltered vehicle. but that said, i think it is prudent anytime to consider where you have sizable capital gains, taking some
why they need to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff. >> you gotta nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top economists came to capitol hill thursday to talk about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars means a couple months rent. for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear, the country could go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money. but insist that bush-era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt, concerns ryan shenecki. ♪ [ music ] ♪ so much so, that he's the guy in the can suit, dancing gang thisnam style with the cochair, former senator
'll talk about that. >>> plus, at the end of the day this fiscal cliff debate will come down to two men. the speaker of the house and the president of the united states dealing one-on-one. we will go behind closed doors and into the war room. you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ >>> we are watching a developing story in kansas city, missouri, right now. this is what police say appears to be a murder/suicide involving a 25-year-old nfl pla
the so-called fiscal cliff, but as the clock ticks down to mandatory spending cuts and tax hikes, negotiations to reach a deal look like they are at a standstill. and now, live to washington with the latest. steve? >> that deadline for action could be fast approaching but the two sides do not appear to be in a hurry, instead of negotiating a deal the players spent their unsunday in -- sundy taking their views to the public. speaker boehner appeared on fox news sunday expressing his surprise when geithner laid out the white house plan of action, calling for a new revenue and stimulus spending. >> i was flabbergasted. i have never seen anything like it. we have several weeks between election day and the end of the year and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> for his part, secretary geithner saying the ball is new in the g.o.p.'s court and he says the administration is ready to move forward if republicans agree to raise taxes on wealthy americans and specify their own demands for reducing government spending and he defended the plan that speaker boehner says
the so-called fiscal cliff. >> you have to nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top economists talked about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars, means a couple months rent for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff, if republicans refused to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily, because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money. but insist that bush-era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt, concerns ryan shenecki. so much so that he's the guy in the suit, dancing gangnam style with former senator allen simpson. >> i'm keeping up on this baby. >> reporter: his group, the cankicksba
're not down to the heart of it yet. >> what about those people who say let the fiscal cliff happen? go over the cliff and see what happens and what political advantage we can gain from that? >> i can't imagine -- i can't imagine when it finally gets down to it that rational people would let that happen. i mean, to throw the country into a recession, which you almost would certainly have. to have these draco nian cuts. you would have cuts in the defense department, charlie, for example. they can't cut programs so they have to cut maintenance. they have to cut -- you know, you can't buy gas for the airplanes. that sort of thing. surely, surely we have not sent people to washington who would be willing to let that sort of thing happen. i can't imagine that it will happen in the end. >> bob schieffer, thank you very much. >>> as we mentioned, bob will interview treasury secretary geithner, congressman mike rogers and dianne feinstein sund sunday. >>> to identify one of the winners who will split a record $588 million jackpot. the other winning ticket sold in arizona might be in the hands of a m
. >> there you go. it's my fiscal cliff helmet down here in washington. >> oh, understood. >> i love it. let's go through the list. not surprising who is number one? >> a re-elected barack obama back at number one. two years ago we had hu jintao so it is not automatic the president is at the top but with a kind of mini mandate, four more years and the defacto leader of the free world it is a pretty easy selection of number one. >> angela merkel number two. easy to understand. >> europe goes through germany and germany goes through merkel. >> let's talk about vladimir putin coming in at number three. >> yes. he has been on the list even when he wasn't president because we all know who was still running the show then. he's back up there with a bullet. he's been as high as two on this list. here is somebody who has a u.n. security council permanency, controls a huge oil and gas reserve, has a nuclear tipped army and wields his power very effectively. >> and loves to show his muscles. many times as possible. >> powerful in many ways. that's right. >> of late bill gates has been the rodney dangerfield
it while it's hot. >> john baker on your facebook page said it's not a fiscal cliff. it's more like a fiscal tumble down a freshly laundered hand towels. >> stephanie: let's do it. sound fun. let's go to lisa in illinois. >> caller: i think we should go over the cliff because we really have nothing to lose. and mcconnell is like a dinosaur. >> stephanie: more like a galapagos island turtle which is very old. >> caller: and saying victory lap. you know how exciting it would be? people would love to see the president come to town. they look so happy. nobody in their line look happy. everybody holding signs they're not smiling. they look like they're paid to be there. they really do. >> stephanie: well, many of them were, all right. >> and some of them are disappointed tea partyers like the person we talked to earlier. >> stephanie: john boner i i am mature. >> victory lap so popular. hate it. >> stephanie: here is the boner. >> sound byte: despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending. >> they're not serio
this year. you have to fiscal cliff coming up. you still have it issues in europe. so, you look at all these things, if you are an investor, you are saying, oh, my gosh, do i keep waiting, do i invest? volatility is here to stay. they need to be invested. lori: i always feel like there are so many things. jill politics to global economy. there are constantly influencing investors. you have to look at what is going on in china. for example, better economic news in asia. it is not, you cannot put blinders on anymore. >> that is exactly correct. what happens in the chinese economy or what happens in the european economy does affect what we need to o here. and how we need to invest. when you look around the world, you have 80% of investors who believe volatility is here to stay. now, the difficulty is you have 70%, three out of four americans who saved it do not have enough for environment. lori: should average investors follow the institutions? >> yeah, you know, one of the things we are seeing is a lot of institutions have held off or have looked at managing risk and mitigating in their
. here we go with the fiscal cliff and the debt and now they vote down the disabilities act right in front of bob dole in a real wheelchair. we're just like wow. >> absolutely. if anyone wants to make a music video using this song as the background alluding to all of that stuff you're talking about you know, i'm not going to say no. >> stephanie: there you go. >> i can't speak for viacom's lawyers. >> stephanie: no. >> but i'm not going to say no. >> stephanie: here's a fun fact. co-wrote ten of the album songs. who is so handsome and rowic and talented. >> thank you. >> don't be a jerk dates from 2009. the joe wilson thing was happening. it just seemed like rudeness and you know, the lack of manners and civil discourses breaking down. you know, my cowriter, andy and i came up with this phrase, how about a song don't be a jerk, it's christmas. it wasn't jerk as you know, stephanie. it begins with a d and ends with a k and ends with flick but -- >> stephanie: yes. >> three years later it is a whole spongebo
much. >>> fiscal cliff negotiations spinning the markets up and down like a yo-yo. i'll get reaction next from real estate guru barry sternlicht. also, we'll discuss how he's putting his investment firm to work. wait until you hear what he has his sights set on. >>> and stick around for my exclusive interview with the chevron ceo. we'll talk about whether dividends are in the pipeline or a big acquisition on the horizon. >>> and is it time to kill the $1 billion? the case is being made today on why $1 coins make more sense. do they really? stick around for that heated debate comes up. you're watching "closing bell" on cnbc. we're back in a minute. at u.s. trust, our expertise extends well beyond investment advice and research analysis. it includes proprietary offerings like our eldercare program, which helps provide for those who came before you. and our financial empowerment program, which helps prepare those who come next. resources like these have made us the number-one trust company. that's why generations of families have come to us to help build their own legacies. [ male annou
: this is one of those markets with a lot of anticipation. every focuses on the fiscal cliff. tomorrow is the all-important jobs report for a lot of folks have been hearing more economic news which has been more dismal lately. talk about more layoffs they have seen in november. right now the market is not too far off the unchanged line. the acidity holding 1400. the tech of the nasdaq still below 3000. today apple is now moving into the green and that is one of the reasons why it is holding on to a quarter percent gain. apple $700, 705 in september traded as low as 518 today. certainly has been under significant pressure, however people use that as a buying opportunity which is evidenced in the two-day chart. with the fiscal cliff fast approaching, naturally it's about time lawmakers took a long recess. >> they're gone today, but will be back tuesday. it meets with small businesses in their district, they will highlight what they say i see ae small business tax hike president obama is pushing. the president is skipping town also for a quick stop in northern virginia. there he will meet
of the fiscal cliff discussions and sat down for lunch with former rival mitt romney. >> i am sure they will or have already compared experiences on the campaign trail. >> today president obama hits the road to push for his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. but republicans have slammed him for campaign-style politics that they say just won't get the job done. rob and sunny, back to you. >> can you really imagine that they're not going to reach some sort of deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? i mean that would be so unpopular across the nation. >> you would -- if you can take an action that would solve the problem for 98% of the country and then come back to the debate about the wealthiest 2%, let's get that first chunk done. republicans fear they could lose leverage if they cave in on the middle-class issue. apparently the president, his team has made increased demand here including, a provision now, part of the negotiations where, the congressional control over the debt limit would go away. and congress does not like to have its power take any way. so maybe the white house, upped the an
down the days to christmas. mom and dad, to count down the days until the fiscal cliff until we fall off of it in 30-days. in legislative language they have two weeks to carve out a deal. republicans or democrats miles apart. >> two weeks because they take christmas off. congress does. >> starting the 149. -- 14th. >> they got canceled. >> congress never really shied away from vacation time. they get on planes and get out there. president obama is blaming the republicans for this stalled proposal right now. listen to the president. >> if congress does nothing eerie familiar -- every family will see income taxes go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle class family of four will see income taxes rise by $2,200. it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts in hostage because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> congressman ted o says he finds the president's suggestion to congress basically laughable, because the president, you will remember during the campaign the 800 billion number was thrown around for new
there. >> also coming up, amazement and dismay. that's how fedex's ceo is describing the fiscal cliff crisis. i sat down with fred smith. hear what he has to say about he and other ceos are responding. [ nyquil bottle ] hey tylenol, you know we're kinda like twins. [ tylenol bottle ] we are? yeah we both relieve coughs, sneezing, aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no, not today. join me, aarp, and aarp foundation in the drive to end hunger by visiting drivetoendhunger.org. in the dr
to northern virginia. he sat down with tiffany santana and her family to put a face on the fiscal cliff. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: tef any had used twitter to tell the president her family can't afford a tax increase. and the white house released this video. >> $2,000 for me would be paying a month's rent. >> reporter: back in washington, more gridlock. >> it's up to the republicans to decide how long it's going to take. >> the president actually isn't interested in a balanced agreement. >> reporter: with both sides stuck on tax hikes for the top 2%, economists wonder if lawmakers will reach a deal this year. >> i'm skeptical, but i do think it can be done next year. >> reporter: warning a congressional committee they would just have a month to negotiate in 2013 before the economy falls apart. >> by mid-february it will be doing a lot of damage. >> reporter: democrats called on lawmakers to continue an extension to jo
to look at the focus of the fiscal cliff debate. they would bear the blame if we do go over the edge. the president sat down with bloomberg news yesterday to talk about this. he said he might be willing to budge on some things but tax rates on the wealthy must go up. republicans should agree to raise them he says now and trust them that spending cuts will go away. >> let's put a down payment on taxes let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. >> they have heard these problems before any deal must tackle entitlements such as medicare and social security to put them on a sustainable path. vice presidential candidate and budget chairman paul ryan says the overall thinking has to change. >> the problem they are the same. but the old ways won't do. we need new thinking and renewed efforts from all americans. look, it is true that president obama won reelection. i congratulate him on his victory. but on january 20th, he will face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. you might even say he will inherit these problems. >> this has become a public relations issue, too. yesterday the
for a face-to-face negotiation on the fiscal cliff. this is just weeks ago before the deadline. right now, as you know, there is still no deal. those sites are still hundreds of billions of dollars apart. mike emanuel has more. reporter: hello, jenna. speaker john boehner says the republicans made a good-faith effort to avert a fiscal crisis. they say essentially this is now time for the president to be getting involved to respond to the republican offering. he claims that the republican offer was balanced, and because republicans cannot just sit there and negotiate with themselves. here's more from the top republican leaders a short time ago. >> i will be here and i will be available at any moment. so, the president and get serious about solving this problem. reporter: they asked the president sit down so we can stop wasteful spending in washington. on the democratic side, there is emphasis that congress should pass the middle-class tax cuts for people earning up to $250,000 per year. to give those people economic certainty. here is more from nancy pelosi making her case. >> i consider w
the markets are really going to be dealing with the political wrangling over the fiscal cliff to begin the week. really no agreements to speak of and i really don't think you're going to see any. it's going to come down to one of these last minute issues because both sides continue to butt heads and we're no closer than we were two weeks ago. from an employment perspective, look for the numbers to come in on average probably around 100 to 125 thousand jobs created. that's where our average really stands. maybe some skewed data from hurricane sandy but you back that out and i think things really stand the same. gold futures and options are very popular right now. what's going on here? i think really one has to think about if this economy would ever get any legs, any momentum. you have to think about the inflation picture. the fed has got so much emphasis on this market. it's an open ended quantitative easing market at this point. any type of momentum, any type of inflation, people are going to be concerned about that and that's why you're seeing this major interest in gold. will warmer
about the fiscal cliff not working, it's a mess, it's never going to happen and then you wake up and you're down 15 points monday morning. that's a problem figuring out what to do over the weekend. it could go the other way. generally it's a little bit more on the gloomy side. then you have the problem with december. we're going into the last month. today is the last day of november. people are behind the curve. a shocking number of people i spoke to are below whatever their benchmark is. do you lighten up? do you stay long what you got? it's hard to maneuver around because you need to get outperformance. you need to get alpha in the month of december and a lot of guys that's in short supply right now. there's tough decisions that have to be made in the next couple of days. meantime, we saw futures weaken as we got some of the personal spending and personal income data and personal spending weaker than expected. even accounting for sandy, consumers looking iffy. that's impacting thinking as well. did you see what happened in japan overnight? everybody in japan has become a stimulus guru.
're down to 26 days. bob, can you really make a deal on the fiscal cliff when the negotiation is out in public? do you think we'll get a deal done? that's what everybody wants to know. >> if everybody thinks we ought to get to a deal, we'll get to a deal. the public part of this, obviously, it's different. you got to get 435 people to vote in the house and 100 in the senate. different than getting a board to approve a fundamentally, getting to a deal is about understanding expectations. this public thing is a very good point. it couldn't be different. when two ceos are meeting to do a merger negotiation, one guy shows up in jeans, and the other guy has sunglasses on. they meet at the o'hare hilton. they don't want anybody to know about it. >> wait a minute. let's point this out. go ahead, jeff. >> the risk is taking the worst part of what wall street does, which is this negotiation of do a deal, do a deal, do a deal, do any deal. that's what happened with hp-autonomy. that's what you don't want to take from wall street in this situation. >> let's face it. a ceo is judged on success b
officials trading insults, playing the blame game here as the clock is winding down on the fiscal cliff. keep in mind time is a-wasting. in 32 days now tax rates soar, spending gets slashed. oh, and don't forget, congress, yeah, they get to take a break for the holidays in 14 days. a recipe for recession. the president is pitching a plan that calls for $1.6 trillion in tax heights and $50 billion in new infrastructure spending. he'll head to a manufacturing plant in pennsylvania to push all this. republicans aren't buying in. listen to house speaker john boehner's reaction. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> didn't take very long for democrats to hit back at speaker boehner. senate majority leader harry reid got up, a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. >> i don't understand his brain. let's go to washington this morning. wow, just when we thought they were getting closer seems like they're even farther apart this morning. >> yeah, you know, the nic
in these fiscal cliff negotiations, treasury secretary, timothy geithner, really doubled down on that yesterday in an interview with cnbc when he was asked if the administration was ready to go over the fiscal cliff, if republicans do not give on this tax issue. listen to what he said. >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest -- remember, it's only 2%. >> john boehner, though, remaining firm in his position, though he says he's already giving, because they're acknowledging that revenue will go up in taxes through the way that they would like to see taxes go up, even though they don't want to see taxes go up, through closing loopholes and eliminating deductions. john boehner acknowledges that revenue is going to be part of this deal, but they are standing firm on, they will not agree to at this point to raising tax rates on anyone. so either way, the major issue remains. the major issue, the major hurdle remains the tax rate issue. >> right, right. and meantime it's ticktock, right? and the house is ou
shrink. on january 1 . we go over the so-called fiscal cliff. and massive government spending cuts. >> and some people fear going off of the cliff could cost thousands of jobs and push our fragile economy back in recession. it seems like we have been down this road before. that deal according to the president and congressional republicans is far from a sure thing. the president said it was a so-called balanced approach to solve this crisis and what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. >> it is unacceptable for republicans to hold middle class tax hostage because they refuse to let them go up on the wealthiest americans. >> people saying that the deal he offered doesn't look like a deal. steve is live in the washington bureau. is there any movement on either side. >> not much. a few republicans who are willing to talk about higher tax rev news but not higher tax rates. the president made a direct appeal to the public. the toy factory in pin pen. he urged congress to pass a bill and extend the era tax cuts for middle class only. >> congress coul
're worried about what happens if we go over the fiscal cliff. play out the scenario for how things would go down if we actually do move past january 1 without an agreement. >> if you get lots of economist projections, you'll see the general view is the economy would have negative growth or a couple percentage points, whatever it is. near term recession impact. and that nt would be good to the economy because it's been moving its way out. what's really after people is will we be serious about fixing the long term problems of america's fiscal situation. basically having more revenue and less expenses so we can get the thing more if line. and that's pre-occupying people because they're worried about the longer term issue. if this doesn't move forward with a solution that actually starts to layout the ground work for the long term issues, it could be potentially disappointing. >> ceos say they have to lay out their plans for what they're planning on doing in january and they have to move forward with the plan that has an assumption that we don't get some sort of a solution. do you hear that fro
be apple. >>> to washington now. the soap opera we call the fiscal cliff. before we get to our chief washington john harwood and the president is meeting with another grouch ceos, i need to start with eamon javers on capitol hill where lawmakers are skipping down early for a long weekend. eamon, wasn't thanksgiving just a couple weeks ago? >> it was. let me check michael ichaey cal. you see rank and file members of congress leaving the capitol. they are done for the week. they're headed back loam to their hometown districts. a lot of folks focused on this negotiation right now but the reality is that the negotiations are taking place among just a very few, very high level people. i was talking to a few rank and file members yesterday who said they were frustrated there is not a whole lot for them to do, they are just sitting around here waiting for some break-through in these negotiations. they want something to do on the floor, in their offices and there is not much for them to sink their teeth into. now they're going into their district. leadership is going to stay here and continu
on with the global central banks that the point in time. because we're caught. this is a fiscal cliff now. this is a prisoner's dilemma and everybody is staring each other down and we're all sitting at a poker table wondering who has the best cards. >> so what do you think will happen with global central banks? we know the fed will take operation twist and turn it into qe-3-b, i guess. i don't know what you want to call it. but instead of swapping short term for long term debt, it's going to buy long term debt outright. >> printing money, right. >> conventional quantitative easing, printing money, whatever you want to call it. and what are we expecting out of europe? what is this with the 1.30 on the euro, a currency everybody says ought to weaken? >> but there are still people who are when the risk on models take over, they buy the euro. that won't last forever as we're starting to see what's going on in france. but spain is certainly the next issue. they had to push greece out of the way and it's interesting the way they resolved greece was exactly what the germans have leaked to reuter
with president obama and the democrats that we ought to climb down off this fiscal cliff in the next five minutes and pass what the senate passed, which is to renew all the bush tax cuts and go back for those over 250,000 to the rates of bill clinton. that's what we passed here. that will bring us almost a trillion dollars over ten years. that will get us to climb down that cliff. then we have got other parts of the cliff, there's no question about it, the automatic sequester. i think it's easy to deal with that by bringing home some of the overseas account money and applying it to the sequester and getting rid of at least half of that sequester, maybe all of the sequester. but no, you're going to listen to these speeches every day about how we're obsessed with taxes. what are you talking about, obsessed with taxes? i'll tell you what i'm obsessed about. i'm obsessed with the fact that we passed here a tax cut for 98% of the american people and our friends are so worried about the millionaires and the billionaires that they will not allow that bill to be voted on in the house. so people can stand
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, with only four weeks to go before we reach that fiscal cliff, republicans offer a proposal for a new deal. it had few specifics. the white house rejected it. tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. with a white house proposal and republican proposal on the table, you'd think we would have somewhere to begin negotiations. the white house says what republicans have offered isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make
. the fiscal cliff stalemate or n not, we don't know if they can come to an agreement at all. >> john boehner said we are at a stalemate, is that how you would describe things? >> i think we are far apart but we are moving closer together. >> the leading republican predicts doom and gloom. >> i think we are going over the cliff. it is pretty clear to me they have made a political calculation. >> coming up, a conservative host says the whole fiscal cliff is bogus and we should go ahead and let the country fall over that cliff. >>> the kansas city chiefs won their second game of the season today. it was a game that the coaches and owners decided to play even though the team was rocked by the news that one of their own committed suicide shortly after allegedly killing his girlfriend. >> it was very emotional, but you saw brothers stick together, coaches stick together and everybody stayed strong. this is a great team win. >> reporter: do you think the tragedy had something to do with your team playing better today? >> honestly, if we can erase yesterday, that would be a great blessing, but i thi
meets with governors at the white house. they will be discussing, what else, the impending fiscal cliff. >>> news corporations uk chief tom mockridge is stepping down. he took over the unit 18 months ago at the height of the company's phone hacking scandal >>> the time has finally come, cory booker taking the food stamp challenge this week. the newark mayor will only be eating with food he can buy for $37. that is the average food stamped benefit in his week. booker said he will be giving up coffee because he can't afford it. that will be tough for us. >> no doubt. >> interesting to see at the end of that how he does. >> i'm sure he will be documenting on twitter what goes on during those days. coming up, one of the strangest cases of cosmetic surgery, can't make this up. did you read about this? mustache implants. that's right. we'll tell you about it next. [ male announcer ] when this hotel added aflac to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male
together. congress as the clock winds down we're in the fourth quarter as we approach the fiscal cliff. if we can deliver like rg3 delivers we'll be doing well. >> do you see him somebody as you a neither? >> absolutely. this guy sim oppressive. >> reporter: former republican vice presidential nominee paul ryan usually doesn't stop for hallway interviews but he made an exception to praise rg3 even though a congressman from wisconsin has to put the packers first. >> i like to think more that green bay is america's team. we can think the same way. look rg3 it's great to see a young guy come out and be successful. >> reporter: even the majority leader is inspired by rg3. >> he offers bipartisan hope. we hope the redskins have a successful season. >> it's probably like covering bruce springsteen. >> reporter: sports writer is writing a series on robert griffin iii for "the washington post." >> this town obama or rg3 who is the bigger figure in town? who owns this town? it's really one or the other. you flip a wine. >> great young man and a heck of a lot of fun to watch an
been so much hysteria over this fiscal cliff that i'm not sure it's warranted. >> that's exactly right. and also the ryan budget you know, their doctrine -- and it really is doctrining. lower taxes for the wealthy, and that will trickle down. untrue. number 2 increase spending in the pentagon way beyond what the pentagon wants and that will make us three. and that cut back on things like education and scientific research and somehow we'll have a stronger future. none of those things make any sense. at the core of the ryan approach, and he is representative of the dominant republican point of view now, is that you are on your own. it is an ayn rand kind of deal. if you are well off and can afford private school and you can give in a gated community, that's the way it ought to be and all of us ought to strive for that, but the fact is when this country has done well, we have had policies that have given the middle class an opportunity to succeed, and it takes a public/private partnership. >> stephanie: yep. representative, how do you see this playing out and h
for an older, wiser, business leader. but first -- >>> still to come with the fiscal cliff getting closer -- >> if i were involved in a negotiation like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement was reachable. >> we will help you rise above the rhetoric. former federal reserve vice chair alice rivlin, all that and much more on "squawk on the street." wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. serves as director of the national budget. recently served as a mechanical of the simpson bowles commission. you look lovely as always. i'm told you're wearing a rather important pin. >> yes, i have on the pin. i'm in favor of rising above all this part san ship and getting deal done. >> you think that's possible, but you're not sure what that can happen by
tonight when we come back. the obama administration's fiscal cliff is apparently hysterically bad, but senator mitch mcconnell burst into laughter upon hearing this. we'll sort through the plan. plus a lesson from president ronald reagan on why republicans should be hesitant to take the president and the democrats at their word when it comes to any deal. and why is dianne feinstein exploring of possibility of housing gitmo terrorists in a neighborhood near you? we'll examine the likelihood of this nutty proposal. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small busins earns 2% cash back on every purchase, ery day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she
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the road. not that far down the road but get into 2013, get the fiscal cliff thing behind us. why? >> i think tom coburn and the president have slightly different reasons for it. but the problem with just doing tax reform when you don't have the rates going back up is that these deductions and credits that we're going to have to go after to reform, they primarily benefit people at the top. but they also benefit middle-class families. and if you just change those then what you end up doing is raising taxes on middle-class families as well. to get the same amount of revenue. in other words, if you're trying to get a revenue target, let's say $1.6 trillion which is what the president wants. you try to do that just by reforming the code, without the rates. you don't touch the rates. the only way to do it is to get the money out of the middle class. the president doesn't want to do that and most people don't want to do that. but if you let the rates go back up, you're basically halfway to your revenue target and you can
after discouraging words from washington on the state of the fiscal cliff. this time it was house speaker boehner speaking with reporters after meeting with treasury secretary tim geithner. eamon javers is in washington with the latest. eamon, the sentiment down here is these guys should stop talking and start crafting a deal. >> reporter: that's the sentiment here in the hallways of capitol hill as well, sue. i can tell you that. we are starting to get a little more clarity on what's going on here today. i just had the chance just a few moments ago to button-hole senator harry reid here in the hallway, asking him a very specific question. i said did treasury secretary tim geithner come up here with a new specific offer for republicans? is that what he laid down on the table for speaker john boehner today? reid told me -- no, there was no specific offer here today from geithner to the republican side. he said that the president of the united states made the democrats' over two weeks ago and there's been no new specific offer since then. i think that explains a little bit of why we
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're down just $4 this friday morning and as you know, there's a fight on capitol hill all about this fiscal cliff and the media is, as always, in the democrat's corner. that will be my opinion. and mark is next. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer lease a 2013 glk350 for $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. >> and we welcome a great guest to "varney & company," he's from the media research center. all right, bret. i want to show you three headlines ripped from the news this morning. first off, the headline in the new york times reads g.o.p. balks at white house plan on fiscal cliff. and second, huffington post this mork, surprise, g.o.p. outrage by offer they received weeks ago and from nbc news, the g.o.p. says white house offer on fiscal cliff is unbalanced. bret, tell me i'm wrong here, it seems like the media is setti
worse than going over this ledge. we went off the fiscal cliff when the president got reelected so now we are just bouncing down further and further ledge to ledge. but the thing is for him to say we're going to increase spending let me give away more money, are you kidding? have you gotten more solyndras you haven't thrown away? enough is enough. the leverage we have is the debt ceiling. i'm hoping our leadership is going to bring that to bear. >> many feel the leverage the president has he says look i want to cut taxes or keep taxes where they are for those making $250,000 or less. i want middle class taxes to stay low. but the republics, they won't let that happen. he comes forward with a 1.6 trillion though in new taxes in this new deal. what do you think of that deal and where are you willing to compromise in terms of revenues? >> well, the president we had two years ago basically said and i'm not sure who this one is but the one a couple years ago said it would be insane to raise taxes during a recession. we are still in the recession. we are still 8% basically in on unemployment
and the presidio parkway. >> watching wall street the fiscal cliff negotiations may not be going well with the housing market coming in strong. the dallas 45 and we are back over the 13,000 mark. home prices rose in october the most is seen in six years a 6.3% climb in house prices. >> a warning from the centers for disease control. this coming season flu season could be a particularly bad one. it is recommended if you've not got a flu shot you might consider it. dr. randyberge n says this strain of the flu will be a powerful one. everyone over the age of six should get a flu shot. the deal lets say that the flu shot will give them the food that is not true. >> the injected form of the flu vaccine it is just a piece of the virus. it is not possible for a piece of the virus to cause a full- fledged flu. >> a third of americans have been vaccinated and the vaccine that is going around this year is a pretty good match for the strain floating around. >> there are remote control airplanes that could be used for is surveillance. the sheriff's office unveiled its of the public in october. th
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. again, we don't think social security should be on the table in these fiscal cliff discussions. not the driver of the deficit, and further down the line, we think it's important to not mess with the age or switch to the chain c.p.i. or any other cuts that would affect beneficiaries. mr. scott: would the gentlelady yield? ms. moore: i yield. mr. scott: people caulk about increasing the age of social security or cost of living increase, the first question is whether or not you're going to cut social security. and then if you decide to cut social security, the different -- there are different ways to have doing it. some more painful than others. but the first question is, are you cutting social security? but part of the question is, why? if none of the tax cuts get extended, at this point you have more money than you need on the table system of the only reason you're even discussing a cut in social security is because you want to extend the tax cut. now i think most people when they're faced with the choice, do you want social security to be a piggy bank every time we're running s
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